# Creating website no 2

**URL:** <https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457>\
**Category:** Account\
**Created:** [January 9, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457 "2024-01-09T11:35:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![kf1web](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@kf1web](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kf1web)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/1 "2024-01-09T11:35:40Z")

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Probably a very simpel question but i cannot find an answer

If i have two completely unrelated websites which needs invidivual tracking. Can they be created and administrated using the same account?

If i create a new website using an extisting account “Site or app ID” is different for each website but “JavaScript library address” and “Tracker address” is the same and is using [https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js) from the first website

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**Author:** ![anthonybartczak](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/anthonybartczak/32/2430_2.png) [@anthonybartczak](https://community.piwik.pro/u/anthonybartczak)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 11:38am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/2 "2024-01-09T11:38:58Z")

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Hi @kf1web,

You can create up to 10 separate sites using the Piwik PRO Core account. Go to the Administration module \> Sites & apps \> Add a site or app.

Once you do that you will get different installation code (`Installation` tab) than the one in your first site. It simply uses a different UUID generated upon site creation.

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> [@kf1web](#):
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> If i create a new website using an extisting account “Site or app ID” is different for each website but “JavaScript library address” and “Tracker address” is the same and is using [https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js) from the first website

Yeah, the JavaScript Tracking client (`ppms.js`) doesn’t really change from site to site. It only needs a different site UUID to know where the traffic should be sent.

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**Author:** ![kf1web](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@kf1web](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kf1web)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/3 "2024-01-09T12:09:39Z")

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> [@anthonybartczak](#):
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> Yeah, the JavaScript Tracking client (`ppms.js`) doesn’t really change from site to site. It only needs a different site UUID to know where the traffic should be sent.

Which is kinda odd. It might be two competitors and if someone got access to the container they might notice. Guess i need to create a new account to avoid that?

Thank you for swift reply

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**Author:** ![anthonybartczak](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/anthonybartczak/32/2430_2.png) [@anthonybartczak](https://community.piwik.pro/u/anthonybartczak)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/4 "2024-01-09T12:16:47Z")

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> [@kf1web](#):
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> Which is kinda odd.

Just to be sure - this is not the tag manager container with all of the user’s tags in it. It’s just a tracking library which contains methods required to push tracking requests to Piwik PRO backend.

[API — Piwik PRO Analytics Suite 18.7 documentation](https://developers.piwik.pro/en/latest/data_collection/web/javascript_tracking_client/api.html#api)

> It might be two competitors and if someone got access to the container they might notice. Guess i need to create a new account to avoid that?

You can grant access to a single site to specific users or user groups, so there is no need of having separate accounts. Your account sees all of them because it’s an Owner account.

[Permissions for a site or app | Piwik PRO help center](https://help.piwik.pro/support/account/site-app-permissions/)

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**Author:** ![kf1web](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@kf1web](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kf1web)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/5 "2024-01-09T16:13:11Z")

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Hi

Lets supposed website 1 was deleted or somethnig like that hence [https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js) would not be accessible. Would that be an issue? If not then which role does that file actually have?

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**Author:** ![anthonybartczak](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/anthonybartczak/32/2430_2.png) [@anthonybartczak](https://community.piwik.pro/u/anthonybartczak)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/6 "2024-01-09T16:51:47Z")

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> [@kf1web](#):
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> Lets supposed website 1 was deleted or somethnig like that hence [https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://xxxxxx.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js) would not be accessible

Afaik this is not correct as the `ppms.js` file is served for the whole account (e.g. `https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js` for `abartczak.piwik.pro` account).

> [@kf1web](#):
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> If not then which role does that file actually have?

This:

> [@anthonybartczak](#):
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> Just to be sure - this is not the tag manager container with all of the user’s tags in it. It’s just a tracking library which contains methods required to push tracking requests to Piwik PRO backend.
> 
> [API — Piwik PRO Analytics Suite 18.7 documentation](https://developers.piwik.pro/en/latest/data_collection/web/javascript_tracking_client/api.html#api)

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**Author:** ![kf1web](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@kf1web](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kf1web)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/7 "2024-01-09T17:25:39Z")

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> [@anthonybartczak](#):
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> [https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js)

Yes what if you deleted your website using

[https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js)

that would be deleting [abartczak.com](http://abartczak.com) or what your website is called. Then would other websites in the account using [https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js) be affected?

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**Author:** ![anthonybartczak](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/anthonybartczak/32/2430_2.png) [@anthonybartczak](https://community.piwik.pro/u/anthonybartczak)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/8 "2024-01-09T17:32:34Z")

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> [@kf1web](#):
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> that would be deleting [abartczak.com](http://abartczak.com) or what your website is called. Then would other websites in the account using [https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js](https://abartczak.containers.piwik.pro/ppms.js) be affected?

No, deleting one website that uses the tracking code (so JSTC) doesn’t impact any of the other websites if they are tracked under [different UUIDs](https://community.piwik.pro/t/creating-website-no-2/3457/2).
