# GA4 and Piwik data discrepancies

**URL:** <https://community.piwik.pro/t/ga4-and-piwik-data-discrepancies/2758>\
**Category:** Data collection and tags\
**Created:** [August 22, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/ga4-and-piwik-data-discrepancies/2758 "2023-08-22T13:50:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![tomc8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@tomc8020](https://community.piwik.pro/u/tomc8020)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/ga4-and-piwik-data-discrepancies/2758/1 "2023-08-22T13:50:42Z")

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Hi,

We’ve got both GA4 and Piwik installed. much prefer piwik but we’ve noticed that the data counts of both systems despite both been set to fire post consent are different. Here is an example of user counts over the same period of time:  
Piwik

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/piwikpro/original/2X/2/25c2d2a842cb346a9ec0073a8a5e51c6b2bd093d.png)

GA4  
 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/piwikpro/original/2X/9/97f14582a76421577653d958d177e817c7b5a1cb.png)

I presume they should match, or if not match, at least be similar. Can anyone shed some light on what may be causing this massive difference in user counts?

edit: i should add i have tested the tag firing on various random pages and both tags are firing and show in the debugger.

Thanks

Tom

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**Author:** ![sararekowska](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/sararekowska/32/1582_2.png) [@sararekowska](https://community.piwik.pro/u/sararekowska)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/ga4-and-piwik-data-discrepancies/2758/2 "2023-08-22T21:13:37Z")

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Hi there!

In general comparing data using different tools will always lead to certain deviations. Each tool runs on an independent engine to process the data and also uses a different approximation algorithm.

Simultaneously there is no strict answer to what might cause such deviation between Google Analytics and Piwik PRO data. Too many various factors can cause such behavior which is impossible to pinpoint.

Here is an article that might help you identify where data discrepancies can come from:

> **[The causes of data discrepancies between analytics platforms - Piwik PRO](https://piwik.pro/blog/causes-data-discrepancies-between-analytics-platforms/)**
>
> Find out the reasons for data discrepancies across different analytics platforms and how to avoid them.