# PiwikPro missing first entry page view a lot **URL:** \ **Category:** Data collection and tags\ **Created:** [November 5, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216 "2022-11-05T12:24:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![optipiwik](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/optipiwik/32/806_2.png) [@optipiwik](https://community.piwik.pro/u/optipiwik)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/1 "2022-11-05T12:24:31Z")
I am using PiwikPro for some weeks now, next to GA (universal). I have installed PiwikPro on 10 websites and comparing the results with GA I notice this: - The number of pageviews is almost always lower in PiwikPro (around 8% lower) then in GA. - The lower number of pageviews in PiwikPro is almost always counted for the Homepage of the website, which is also most of the time the Entry page of the visitors. - So for the Home page I see lower pageviews and lower amount of Entries in PiwikPro. - But all the other pages from the website show 99% the same amount of pageviews (and Entries) in PiwikPro and GA. So it seems that PiwikPro is missing the very first pageview from a visit too frequently. Any idea what can cause this issue? Thanks for the help šŸ™‚ Best Wishes, Alwin ---
**Author:** ![kuba](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/kuba/32/7_2.png) [@kuba](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kuba)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 8:52am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/2 "2022-11-07T08:52:16Z")
Hi. Are you using a consent manager? Whatā€™s your current config? ---
**Author:** ![optipiwik](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/optipiwik/32/806_2.png) [@optipiwik](https://community.piwik.pro/u/optipiwik)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/3 "2022-11-09T09:59:34Z")
No, I am not using consent manager. - Measure scroll depth: OFF - Keep anchors in page URL: ON - Start a new session when the campaign changes: ON - Donā€™t collect data from known crawlers: ON - Collect data only from known sites: ON (also filtered in GA) - Track page views in a single-page application: OFF - Delay loading the next page: 250ms - Start a new session when the referrer changes: ON - Ask visitors for consent: OFF - Use a session ID: ON - Use visitor cookies: OFF - Comply with CNIL guidelines: OFF - Donā€™t collect visitorā€™s device data: OFF - Mask IP addresses: ON - Collect from unmasked IP addresses: All data In Tag manager - Set a user ID: OFF - Outlinks and downloads: ON - Interactions with popups and content: OFF - Count session time precisely: ON - Recognize a visitor across domains: OFF - Recognize a visitor across subdomains: OFF - Use visitor cookies: ON (to prevent double cookie disabled warning) - Remove the visitor cookie at custom time: OFF - Consent type: No consent is required - Respect opt-out and DNT: OFF - Detect JavaScript errors: OFF - Track page views manually: OFF - Donā€™t fire in debug mode: OFF - Flight dates: Run forever / Run all day - Default page view trigger ---
**Author:** ![kuba](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/kuba/32/7_2.png) [@kuba](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kuba)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/4 "2022-11-09T10:10:52Z")
Can you share the URL of website here or on priv? For now I donā€™t have more ideas, but maybe Iā€™ll be able to find something on the website directly. ---
**Author:** ![optipiwik](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/optipiwik/32/806_2.png) [@optipiwik](https://community.piwik.pro/u/optipiwik)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/5 "2022-11-09T10:22:45Z")
No problem and thanks for your help: > **[Haus am Einberg Sauerland | Pension, Ferienwohnung, Camping](https://www.einberg.net/)** > > Haus am Einberg Sauerland, Grevenstein. Pension, Ferienwohnung und Naturcamping mit einzigartigem Panoramablick Ć¼ber das Wennetal. ---
**Author:** ![kuba](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/kuba/32/7_2.png) [@kuba](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kuba)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/6 "2022-11-09T10:44:56Z")
Two things worth checking: - IP exclusion list - make sure that itā€™s exactly the same - I see in tracker debugger many visits excluded because of being a known crawler. Those page views occur only on the homepage. Maybe thatā€™s the difference and Google doesnā€™t exclude these? You can test it for a while by disabling the option to exclude bots by default. ---
**Author:** ![optipiwik](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/optipiwik/32/806_2.png) [@optipiwik](https://community.piwik.pro/u/optipiwik)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/7 "2022-11-09T11:31:30Z")
I have tracked one excluded visitor (it was a Pingdom check I wasnā€™t aware was running). I keep a look at things, thanks so far šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![optipiwik](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/optipiwik/32/806_2.png) [@optipiwik](https://community.piwik.pro/u/optipiwik)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/8 "2022-11-09T11:39:28Z")
Would it also be an option to preload the piwkpro URL with my WP-Rocket plugin? ---
**Author:** ![rmeekers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/rmeekers/32/929_2.png) [@rmeekers](https://community.piwik.pro/u/rmeekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/9 "2022-11-09T13:36:20Z")
> [@optipiwik](#): > > So it seems that PiwikPro is missing the very first pageview from a visit too frequently. I see the same sometimes, first results include scroll events, but no page view: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/piwikpro/original/1X/d3cc2e7d00d13dee809cb07ead7a159f2c51f0a1.png) or ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/piwikpro/original/1X/956f0d619107391ec8ba226d6c9682692f89c1b6.png) ---
**Author:** ![kuba](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/kuba/32/7_2.png) [@kuba](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kuba)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/10 "2022-11-09T13:38:26Z")
That can happen if the visitor switches back to the tab after 30 mins of inactivity. Iā€™d check if there are also other sessions for the same visitor ID. ---
**Author:** ![rmeekers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/rmeekers/32/929_2.png) [@rmeekers](https://community.piwik.pro/u/rmeekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/11 "2022-11-09T13:44:39Z")
wouldnā€™t they show up in the debugger then? Iā€™ve set the history to 6h. And I only uses session cookies which live only 30 min? ---
**Author:** ![kuba](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/kuba/32/7_2.png) [@kuba](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kuba)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/12 "2022-11-09T13:59:26Z")
Itā€™s 30 mins from the last activity. To check that you can use both session log and tracker debugger. In session log thereā€™s no limitation when it comes to the timing of the event. ---
**Author:** ![rmeekers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/rmeekers/32/929_2.png) [@rmeekers](https://community.piwik.pro/u/rmeekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/13 "2022-11-09T14:11:17Z")
Session logs show identical data. No first page view recorded. (Iā€™ve checked sessions older than 3h from now to make sure that they are already in the session log). ---
**Author:** ![kuba](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/kuba/32/7_2.png) [@kuba](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kuba)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/14 "2022-11-09T14:45:54Z")
What I suggested was taking the ID of the visitor that had a session starting with a scroll to check if there are other previous visits done by the same user. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/piwikpro/original/1X/09db518e7a5113f0d566144242d0cc1ffc1db2c9.png) ---
**Author:** ![rmeekers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/rmeekers/32/929_2.png) [@rmeekers](https://community.piwik.pro/u/rmeekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/15 "2022-11-09T14:54:15Z")
I know šŸ˜… And I did, but I donā€™t see additional logs. But what Iā€™m thinking right now: I only use sessions to track users. So in that case itā€™s quite normal that no additional data shows up, isnā€™t it? šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![kuba](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/kuba/32/7_2.png) [@kuba](https://community.piwik.pro/u/kuba)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/16 "2022-11-09T14:57:10Z")
It depends on your config. By default, the cookie lifetime would be set to 13 months if there is consent. With anonymous tracking (no consent given) each session would have a different Visitor ID even for the same user. ---
**Author:** ![rmeekers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/rmeekers/32/929_2.png) [@rmeekers](https://community.piwik.pro/u/rmeekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/17 "2022-11-09T15:03:44Z")
ok thanks šŸ™ . The second one is my current config, so then it is clear. ---
**Author:** ![optipiwik](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.piwik.pro/optipiwik/32/806_2.png) [@optipiwik](https://community.piwik.pro/u/optipiwik)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 9:43am UTC](https://community.piwik.pro/t/piwikpro-missing-first-entry-page-view-a-lot/1216/18 "2022-11-11T09:43:05Z")
Okay, from the 10 websites in my PiwikPro account, 9 of them have around the same amount of pageviews in GA and in PiwkPro now. But the one website on which it does not match also continuously shows big differences in the number of pageviews. Yesterday again more than 20% difference between GA and PiwikPro. The whole PiwikPro setup is the same in this one website than in the other 9. However, there is one difference, the 9 websites that match GA pageviews all have a .nl domain extension. The website on which the number of pageviews does not match has a .net extension. I donā€™t know if that could have anything to do with it (I donā€™t think so) but otherwise I donā€™t know either.